[ kaiser is familiar with doing that maneuver! sadly, he can't recognize it being done to him. ]
its when psychopathic men hit on women by cycling through complementing, insulting, and then complementing her in a backhanded way to break down her self esteem and make her not notice the psychopathy youre doing it perfectly, now you need to complement me in a backhanded way
[ he's unfortunately starting to see why this tactic is so appealing to kaiser. also his low empathy sociopath powerlevels might be getting exposed here, oops. ]
I can't. My compliments to you are as genuine as my insults. The backhanded ones I use on others wouldn't apply to you. Would you like me to try anyway?
i dont think you need to try, that was quite well done. i see that youre a real natural at this the segue from "youre special" to "youre not special" to "i both compliment and insult you specially" is really masterful sequencing for somebody who just learned about what negging is, though i have to presume youve been doing this without realizing for ages now has that succeeded at getting you laid with a high hit rate, i wonder?
and you want me to surpass you like this? without knowledge of how to optimally manage my pre-match ejaculations? okay...
[ kaiser says this like it wasn't already weird to inquire about the timing of noa's ejaculations. also, he absolutely does not have this problem in general because that would require him to get over his disgust and loathing to allow himself to regularly fuck ... ]
[ he has no idea what "sigma rizz" means and he won't google it. ]
It's a lot more boring than that. I have established partners that I make contact with if time permits. If they're available, then we meet. My private life isn't very exciting.
[ kaiser's revenge for everything will be exposing noa to brainrot at every level. pay the fanum tax or whatever the skibidi ]
let me guess, earlier in your career it was mostly other football players. never on the team you were playing against, of course, but thats not a problem in most major cities nowadays its moved more towards athletes in other sports or people whove already moved onto management or commentating but still keep in shape theyre all competitive and good at fucking but otherwise rather boring people how close am i, rate out of 10
i think that youre concerned that i will be able to accurately profile everybody in your little black book with enough information and youre right to worry about that so i will let it go
[ praise his magnanimous heart. ]
i dont think im having delusions, though, i think my inferences are quite logical you probably think of it as doing physical maintenance or something along those lines
[ but when will kaiser use that imaginative brain of his to put together that noa is leaving space to add him into the book one day? well, all things in time. ]
You are right that it's about maintenance. I have needs to fulfill, and created an outlet to achieve that. Everyone I've been with understands it'll never be more than a physical relationship.
[ --for the most part. he's cut a few people off who forgot who he is and confessed their heartfelt love to him, thinking they could change him or he could love them in an inherently special way. never regret nor remorse when it came to that, but disappointment that the social contract established in the dark was broken in the futile attempt to drag it into the light. ]
[ kaiser looking at leonardo luna and sae itoshi interact: lmao. get groomed, idiot kaiser looking at himself in the mirror: . ]
there are those who have enough sense to weigh the pros and cons and choose to not delude themselves into thinking they could be the exception, and those who do not, is it? how very much like you if anything the only thing that surprises me about all of this is the idea that you have multiple pages to fill up in your book
[ at least noa wants his boywife to be unhinged and murderous instead of depressed and cynical??? ]
There are those who start as the former but then shift into the latter. Hopeless sentimentality. Does it really surprise you though? It seems sensible to leave my options open. Or do you think it's because word could spread with too many people?
[ he had that concern when he was younger, that it could be a stain on a reputation he didn't care about but was still important to maintain. but he's made clear to anyone he's been with that there would be no second chances if his privacy was violated. ]
[ true, free-range and organically deranged boywives are healthier and have more longevity! ]
no, because im shocked youve met enough people who meet all those criteria, whose personality does not turn you off, are decent lays, and are willing to repeat this act of self harm over time that youve got regular hookups across europe, like thats fucking crazy where are you finding these insane people
[ kaiser says this like he doesn't himself enjoy grievous mental self-harm. ]
[ haaah... well, he's not wrong about any of those things. though, unfortunately, personality is nowhere as much of a concern as is physicality. he's endured a few people he can't stand just because the sex was good. ]
Don't call my partners insane or imply they self-harm just because they sleep with me. I've had a decade to build up my connections. Also, I'm me.
[ he's "noel noa the world's best striker" or whatever. though most of his consistent partners have known him years before he was bequeathed that title. ]
oh my, hes getting worked up over the good mental bearing of his hook-ups now... very interesting...
[ "what do we make of this, chat?" except this phrasing is probably just going to make noa think kaiser is hallucinating or something. ]
anybody willing to put up with all that just to say to themselves and nobody else "i fucked the worlds best" is still insane, btw, just in a different way
[ listen, haze him all you want but leave his fwbs out of it. they fulfill his needs and are good for it. ]
All of what? My restrictions? Me, in general? Well, either way, there might be some truth to that. But everyone gets what they want out of the arrangement. I don't mind being used if I still get my way.
[ noa has, for a long time, seen himself both as an individual and as a piece he maneuvers from a birds eye view. he is detached even from his own sense of self when he wills it to be so. ]
[ where's this energy when kaiser is getting trash talked by chr*s pr*nce in front of everybody? 🙄 ]
the whole package but yes, you in general anybody who knows you well enough should know that you dont do anything without an intention to win well, maybe you think its fine since it could be a win-win situation but whoever accepts that situation on the other end is clearly giving something up mentally or theyre too clueless to get it
[ kaiser does not know about logical fallacies, but he knows bullshit when he hears it!! sometimes. ]
i said what i said, either they dont actually understand you as well as they think they do, or they dont understand the real situation isnt the fact that people get carried away and think they might be your exception proof enough of that?
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[ maybe he should ask peepaw if he knows what negging is first? ]
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[ he could google it (and just did) but what he's really doing is just being difficult on purpose. ]
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its when psychopathic men hit on women by cycling through complementing, insulting, and then complementing her in a backhanded way to break down her self esteem and make her not notice the psychopathy
youre doing it perfectly, now you need to complement me in a backhanded way
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I can't.
My compliments to you are as genuine as my insults. The backhanded ones I use on others wouldn't apply to you. Would you like me to try anyway?
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the segue from "youre special" to "youre not special" to "i both compliment and insult you specially" is really masterful sequencing for somebody who just learned about what negging is, though i have to presume youve been doing this without realizing for ages now
has that succeeded at getting you laid with a high hit rate, i wonder?
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So yes?
[ it is also a literal black book. peepaw isn't putting his hookups in his phone contacts. ]
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have you never had a coach who has that superstition about cumming before a game or do you always wait until after the match
[ or has noa been a münchen muncher this whole time... ]
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I'm not sharing my secrets.
I had a decade to figure this out. And I'm still the top scorer in the league, so it's working out for me.
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[ kaiser says this like it wasn't already weird to inquire about the timing of noa's ejaculations. also, he absolutely does not have this problem in general because that would require him to get over his disgust and loathing to allow himself to regularly fuck ... ]
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I don't have time to fit anything in beforehand, and it's not a priority to do so.
[ when did this suddenly become about his sex life? ugh ]
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[ he'll only do angelic things with that information, of course. ]
your phrasing seems to imply thats what your usual schedule is like, i guess you really do have natural sigma rizz [ mogging and mewing, etc. ]
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It's a lot more boring than that.
I have established partners that I make contact with if time permits. If they're available, then we meet.
My private life isn't very exciting.
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let me guess, earlier in your career it was mostly other football players. never on the team you were playing against, of course, but thats not a problem in most major cities
nowadays its moved more towards athletes in other sports or people whove already moved onto management or commentating but still keep in shape
theyre all competitive and good at fucking but otherwise rather boring people
how close am i, rate out of 10
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I'm not giving you anymore fodder than I already have. Keep your delusions to yourself.
[ he is not kissing and telling!! take the headcanons to the rpf girls on footballtwt ]
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[ praise his magnanimous heart. ]
i dont think im having delusions, though, i think my inferences are quite logical
you probably think of it as doing physical maintenance or something along those lines
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You are right that it's about maintenance.
I have needs to fulfill, and created an outlet to achieve that. Everyone I've been with understands it'll never be more than a physical relationship.
[ --for the most part. he's cut a few people off who forgot who he is and confessed their heartfelt love to him, thinking they could change him or he could love them in an inherently special way. never regret nor remorse when it came to that, but disappointment that the social contract established in the dark was broken in the futile attempt to drag it into the light. ]
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kaiser looking at himself in the mirror: . ]
there are those who have enough sense to weigh the pros and cons and choose to not delude themselves into thinking they could be the exception, and those who do not, is it?
how very much like you
if anything the only thing that surprises me about all of this is the idea that you have multiple pages to fill up in your book
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There are those who start as the former but then shift into the latter. Hopeless sentimentality.
Does it really surprise you though? It seems sensible to leave my options open.
Or do you think it's because word could spread with too many people?
[ he had that concern when he was younger, that it could be a stain on a reputation he didn't care about but was still important to maintain. but he's made clear to anyone he's been with that there would be no second chances if his privacy was violated. ]
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no, because im shocked youve met enough people who meet all those criteria, whose personality does not turn you off, are decent lays, and are willing to repeat this act of self harm over time that youve got regular hookups across europe, like thats fucking crazy
where are you finding these insane people
[ kaiser says this like he doesn't himself enjoy grievous mental self-harm. ]
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Don't call my partners insane or imply they self-harm just because they sleep with me.
I've had a decade to build up my connections.
Also, I'm me.
[ he's "noel noa the world's best striker" or whatever. though most of his consistent partners have known him years before he was bequeathed that title. ]
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[ "what do we make of this, chat?" except this phrasing is probably just going to make noa think kaiser is hallucinating or something. ]
anybody willing to put up with all that just to say to themselves and nobody else "i fucked the worlds best" is still insane, btw, just in a different way
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All of what? My restrictions? Me, in general?
Well, either way, there might be some truth to that. But everyone gets what they want out of the arrangement. I don't mind being used if I still get my way.
[ noa has, for a long time, seen himself both as an individual and as a piece he maneuvers from a birds eye view. he is detached even from his own sense of self when he wills it to be so. ]
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the whole package but yes, you in general
anybody who knows you well enough should know that you dont do anything without an intention to win
well, maybe you think its fine since it could be a win-win situation but whoever accepts that situation on the other end is clearly giving something up mentally or theyre too clueless to get it
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You think I destroy my partner's mental stability for my own gain or that they were already unstable to start with. You're overthinking this.
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[ kaiser does not know about logical fallacies, but he knows bullshit when he hears it!! sometimes. ]
i said what i said, either they dont actually understand you as well as they think they do, or they dont understand the real situation
isnt the fact that people get carried away and think they might be your exception proof enough of that?
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